Joining the Dots podcast returns: Series 2 highlights so far

Joining the Dots podcast returns: Series 2 highlights so far
May 14, 2025
The latest season of Joining the Dots dives into state-backed doping, romance scams, economic crime and more - through real stories from the field.

We’re back – and the stakes are higher than ever…

Following the success of our debut season, Joining the Dots, Clue’s in-house podcast, returns with a bold new series spotlighting the people and stories driving change in justice, harm reduction, and global security.

Hosted by Clue co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer Thomas Drohan, Series 2 takes listeners behind the scenes of some of the most pressing issues of our time – from state-sponsored doping and romance scams to the staggering impact of economic crime on national security.

Joining the Dots is all about speaking directly with those on the frontlines,” says Thomas. “It’s a chance to share real stories, uncover hard-earned insights, and learn from the experiences of people working to make a difference in complex, high-stakes environments.”

Series 2 so far and what’s upcoming

This season features a dynamic line-up of guests – from law enforcement leaders and fraud experts to campaigners and whistleblowers – sharing hard-earned insights from the field. So far, we’ve been diving deep into the world of sports corruption and integrity:

Sarah Lewis OBE OLY – From Olympic Slopes to Anti-Doping Pioneer

Olympic ski racer and long-time Secretary General of the International Ski Federation, Sarah Lewis shared her journey from the slopes to the frontlines of anti-doping reform. She unpacks major scandals, transformative policy changes, and her bold vision for safeguarding sport’s integrity in the years ahead. Watch the episode here.

Martin Dubbey – From Drug Busts to the Sochi Doping Scandal

Thomas speaks with Martin Dubbey, ex-UK drug liaison officer turned investigator, about exposing Russia’s state-backed doping at Sochi. From forensic breakthroughs to geopolitical cover-ups, they unpack sports corruption, whistleblower risks, and emerging threats like AI-driven fraud. A gripping dive into the dark side of global sport. Watch the episode here.

Later this series, you can also expect to hear from:

  • Nick Sharp – Deputy Director, National Economic Crime Centre
    On the growing threat economic crime poses to national security in the UK.

  • Professor Mark Button – Director, Centre for Cybercrime and Economic Crime
    Unpacking West African scam culture and international disruption efforts.

  • Anna Rowe – Founder, Catch the Catfish
    Sharing her experience as a romance scam victim turned activist and advocate.

  • Alex Rothwell – CEO, NHS Counter Fraud Authority
    On protecting the NHS from £1.2 billion in annual fraud.

  • Laura Eshelby – Head of Economic Crime, Clue
    Drawing from a career in counter-fraud, including work with the UK Cabinet Office.

Don’t miss an episode

Subscribe now to Joining the Dots on your favourite platform or stream directly at cluesoftware.com/joining-the-dots.

Whether you’re in law enforcement, public safety, or simply fascinated by stories at the intersection of integrity and innovation – this series is for you.

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