Professor Mark Button joins Thomas to expose West Africa’s booming cybercrime scene - from “hustle kingdoms” training digital scammers to AI-powered fraud tactics. They unpack the global impact, victim toll, and what it will take to disrupt these billion-dollar networks. A gripping look at cybercrime’s roots, reach, and the race to stop it.


Thomas is joined by Laura Eshelby, former Cabinet Office counter fraud leader, to explore how fraud has evolved — and what’s needed to fight it. From deep fakes to data analytics, they discuss the challenges of detection, the promise of technology, and why breaking silos is key to staying ahead.

Join Thomas as he speaks with Nick Sharp, Deputy Director of the NECC, about the UK's battle against economic crime. From fraud trends and international laundering to AI-driven prevention, Nick shares insider insights into a complex criminal ecosystem -and why collaboration, not victim-blaming, is key to turning the tide.

Thomas speaks with Martin Dubbey, ex-UK drug liaison officer turned investigator, about exposing Russia’s state-backed doping at Sochi. From forensic breakthroughs to geopolitical cover-ups, they unpack sports corruption, whistleblower risks, and emerging threats like AI-driven fraud. A gripping dive into the dark side of global sport.

Olympic ski racer and long-time Secretary General of the International Skiing Federation, Sarah Lewis shares her journey from the slopes to the frontlines of anti-doping reform. She unpacks major scandals, transformative policy changes, and her bold vision for safeguarding sport’s integrity in the years ahead.

Ian Smith, Commissioner of the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC), discusses the booming esports industry and its integrity challenges, focusing on issues like cheating and match-fixing, and emphasising the need for stronger governance as the sector expands.

The episode explores the critical role of technology in combating transnational crime and Neville’s vision for the future of global law enforcement by 2030. This episode offers a rare, insider perspective on the intricacies of maintaining international security in a rapidly changing world.

Phil Suddick, Head of Sport and Safeguarding at Clue Software, joins Thomas to revisit his transition from law enforcement to sports integrity. The pair discuss the impact of technology on investigations, challenges of match-fixing and doping, and how these issues might evolve by 2030.

Adam Pacifico shares his journey from barrister to police officer and back, discussing technology's impact on law, human-centred leadership, AI's potential in criminal justice, and the need for adaptability and a learning mindset.

Former Deputy Director of Investigations at the NCA, Matt Horne shares insight into how organised crime syndicates leverage technological advancements to boost their operations, while traditional methods of violence and intimidation still dominate.

Safeguarding advisor and former Metropolitan Police Commander in charge of Operation Yewtree, Peter Spindler, revisits his career and the landmark investigation into Jimmy Savile's abuse allegations.

Alex divulges insider tactics such as social engineering and spoofing technology. He offers a surreal peek into his earlier crimes, including his stint impersonating the Duke of Marlborough.

Joining the Dots provides real-world insights from those dedicated to justice, harm reduction, and global security. Hosted by Thomas Drohan, technologist and co-founder of Clue Software, each episode delves into the challenges and triumphs of those on the frontline tackling real issues like child abuse, human trafficking, corruption, organised crime, and fraud.

About Joining the Dots
Joining the Dots provides real-world insights from those dedicated to justice, harm reduction, and global security. Hosted by Thomas Drohan, technologist and co-founder of Clue Software, each episode delves into the challenges and triumphs of those on the frontline tackling real issues like child abuse, human trafficking, corruption, organised crime, and fraud.
Thomas leverages his experience working with diverse intelligence and investigations teams to explore candid conversations with victims, perpetrators, investigators, leaders, tech experts, and academics. Joining the Dots highlights the tireless efforts and innovative strategies making our world safer.
Meet your host
Thomas Drohan is the co-founder and Chief Commercial Officer at Clue Software, a leading provider of intelligence and investigation software. With a deep passion for technology and justice, Thomas has built a reputation for creating world-class solutions that empower professionals in government, law enforcement, NGOs, sports, and the corporate sector.
His extensive network and experience in the intelligence and investigation space make him a key figure in tackling some of the most pressing global security issues.
